TPC #022: Eleonora Bartoli and Ali Michael on Writing on Social Hot Button Issues

The Art of Paying Attention

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TPC #022: Eleonora Bartoli and Ali Michael on Writing on Social Hot Button Issues

Ryan J. Pelton

Aug 16, 2022

As the Director of the Race Institute for K-12 Educators, Ali Michael, Ph.D. works with schools and organizations across the country to help make research on race, Whiteness, and education more accessible and relevant to educators. Eleonora Bartoli, Ph.D., is a consultant and licensed psychologist, specializing in trauma, resilience-building, and multicultural/social justice counseling. She earned her Ph.D. in Psychology: Human Development/Mental Health Research from the University of Chicago in 2001. In this conversation, Ryan, Eleonora, and Ali discuss why talking about race and getting uncomfortable is the only way for change, how telling difficult stories is the path for empathy, why white people need to talk about racial inequality, the challenges of co-writing a book, and much more.

Get their latest book, "Our Problem, Our Path: Collective Antiracism for White People," and learn more about the authors here: https://bookshop.org/books/our-problem-our-path-collective-antiracism-for-white-people/9781071851326

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The Art of Paying Attention

What do you pay attention to? How do I determine what's worthy of my limited attention? It’s the questions every human asks at some point, and the questions we MUST ask, to thrive in this one precious life.

And it’s these types of questions (and more), we want to wrestle with on The Art of Paying Attention.

We believe the work of paying attention is not optional, and something we all must learn to do well. The poet Mary Oliver said, "To pay attention, this is our endless and proper work.”

Every week, we'll consider this endless, and proper work, of paying attention. What do we see? What are we learning? WHAT or WHO needs MORE attention? Join writer, creator, teacher, and accidental entrepreneur, Ryan J. Pelton, as he explores with others, the essential Art of Paying Attention.

Most episodes feature an interview with a bonafide "attention-collector" working in the arenas of creativity, art, music, writing, publishing, entrepreneurship/business, and spirituality. Join in the conversation and learn to see with new eyes a world bursting with hints of hope. Often in the most unlikely places.

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